Say No To Foam

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So we all know by now that foaming cleansers are bad, right? Skincare guru Caroline Hirons said so and there for it must be true.. but is it as simple as saying no to foam? For a face wash addict like me.. no. For the past few weeks I’ve stuck to balms and been a good girl double toning and avoiding mineral oils like CH told me but the Gel Wash still sits on my bath side calling me.. My skin feels great after cleansing now but I loved that squeaky clean feeling.. residue and hydration is all well and good but sometimes. just sometimes I need that foam. So far I’ve been using this up on my back and chest (even that’s not great though) in an effort to get it out of sight and out of mind but I wondered, am I alone in feeling this way?

It’s been suggested that many are following advice blindly in recent months, throwing out their regular routines just because ‘some old woman’ (not my words) told them to and I suppose in a way we are but much the same as how 50 years ago they said smoking was good for you.. we know better now and are trying to make a change. Does it matter where it came from? I am no expert and have said on many occasions that my blog is basically a record of trial and error. I share my thoughts and opinions, hits and misses but I don’t stay home nights researching ingredients and unless I’m looking for a low cost dupe for something I’m not about to start now. I trust the wisdom of those with years of experience.

Anyway.. back to the foam, if you’ve recently made the switch, how are you finding it? It’a the same as anything else, change take time and adjustment.. maybe we need a support a group..

Miss BB

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  1. Abigail
    11 July, 2013 / 12:51 pm

    I just think that with SO many foaming cleansers on the market, and with reputable brands developing them, they cant all be that bad right?! And I agree it seems a bit daft that the whole blogging world are treating Caroline almost like some sort of skincare god. I’m learning to take her advice with a pinch of salt. Like, I’m not running out to spend a fortune on that EH cleansing balm. I have far younger skin that she does (no offence to her) So they things that she needs in her skin care surely can’t be the same as what I need?? And the toner debate… how can she be SO pro when the likes of Sali Hughes is dead set against them? It’s all so confusing.

    Rant over 🙂 Adoring your blog as always!

    • missbudgetbeauty
      11 July, 2013 / 7:16 pm

      Honestly I don’t know..I’m sure they’re not horrendous and as Caroline says if it works for you, great but she’s offering advice for those who haven’t found the best thing for them and I’m always looking for better so I’m happy to try something new. I see where you’re coming from on the younger skin point but as I get closer to 30 I am more interested in skin care and probably buy more of it now than makeup so I guess we’re coming from different perspectives.

      That being said even as a teenager I always knew the value of removing my makeup and moisturising before bed.. ALWAYS!

  2. Kate
    11 July, 2013 / 1:00 pm

    I made the switch too! (after being a bit miffed at having to buy MORE face products.. pennies pennies) you’re right it’s so difficult.. Just doesn’t feel like you’ve done it right with out the squeaky-ness, it does appear to be better though as my usually spot prone skin is starting to turn a corner..

    ps absolutely love your blog never usually comment on them!

    • missbudgetbeauty
      11 July, 2013 / 7:13 pm

      thank you!! I too have found my skin far more receptive to balms and oils than I’d expected.. the idea of nourishing skin rather than attacking it seems so obvious and yet I’ve been treating my skin like it’s something to be controlled for years rather than something to be looked after

  3. 11 July, 2013 / 1:32 pm

    I think that’s a fair point miss BB. Some people love to cleanse their skin with oil….ghaa!! Wouldn’t even dream of it. Like you said if it works for you – if the ingredients are decent quality and there’s a little foaming agent – let’s not all let out panties get in a twist about it. There are way more important things to worry about in life than a little SLS,. Parabens are definitely worse but generally what people put in their BODY rather than on their faces is going to have a bigger impact; think..

    GMO foods
    Fructose corn syrup
    Smoking
    drinking
    asapartame

    People can’t sit there and say – you musn’t use such and such on your skin whilst supping a diet coke or eating a processed stabucks muffin.

    🙂 Good for you for bucking the trend– it’s something I find EXTREMELY rare in the bblogging industry.

    x

    Simply Woman Magazine

    • missbudgetbeauty
      11 July, 2013 / 7:11 pm

      oh my diet is awful but you could be uber healthy and lay out in the sun all day and without good skincare and spf you’d look older than your years, fast. Obviously what’s on the inside is important but I think it’s short sighted to say if you’re not looking after yourself on the inside whats the point in looking after yourself on the outside.. sure one is better than none?

      • 11 July, 2013 / 7:16 pm

        it’s short sighted to say if you’re not looking after yourself on the inside whats the point in looking after yourself on the outside

        No that’s not what I meant at all!

        I meant it’s important to have perspective on things, if people (not you specifically) are getting worried about what’s going on their skin that’s fine but that’s only part of the picture. It wasn’t in reference to you at all.

        There are people out there that get all worked up over some small ingredient that has been hyped in the media but yet happy to put aspartame or GMO in their bodies which will ultimately do more damage 🙂

        • missbudgetbeauty
          11 July, 2013 / 7:32 pm

          I wasn’t taking offense at all lol.. just pointing out that good skin care is always a good idea regardless of diet. Honestly from my perspective I know I can eat better and avoid diet coke (my vice) but I don’t smoke or drink to excess (often), I don’t use sunbeds so I’m not gonna give myself a hard time. I totally understand you aren’t referring to me but I’m using myself as an example.

          I’m not worried about chemicals.. most of what I’m looking for in skincare is entirely anti-organic/natural.. I understand your point about people being worried about ingredients if they’re looking for things that are naturally sourced but that’s not the case here.. I read that foaming cleansers affect PH balance which allows bacteria to spread etc etc that has little to nothing to do with what I eat.

          That being said I know switching coke for water would do my skin the world of good.. I just don’t want to lol

  4. 11 July, 2013 / 1:32 pm

    I dropped the foam and must admit my skin feels more comfortable for it. I am liking melting gel cleansers for in the shower in the morning (no7 one at the mo but curious to try clarins) and tend to use Liz Earle or similar type cleanser with a flannel at night (I find the thicker balms a bit greasy).

    I love Caroline’s blog and she talks a lot of sense but you know best what works for you and what doesn’t.

  5. 11 July, 2013 / 1:51 pm

    I still haven’t really decided how I feel about the no foaming wash, though I do use a no foaming face wash.
    Maria

  6. 11 July, 2013 / 2:01 pm

    Awww what a shame! Foam cleansers are my favourite type to cleanse my face. I don’t think I’ll be making the switch any time soon! Although I do love using cleansing oils before using foams.
    x Court

  7. Victoria
    11 July, 2013 / 2:44 pm

    I’ve been using Lush Ultrabland for a few years, which is a balm cleanser. I much prefer it to foaming ones. After using it my face feels normal, rather than the squeaky clean feeling, I fell like I get the squeaky clean feel when I use masks once or twice a week, which is enough for me, I don’t like to feel like my skin has dried right out.
    I think its ok to just use what works for you.

  8. 11 July, 2013 / 4:22 pm

    I have this L’Oreal face wash, and I was sucked in by the ‘no soap’ which I thought meant it was better for my skin and not got some of the ‘bad’ stuff in it, I was wrong, but I don’t understand skin care and the do’s and don’ts so while the face wash is leaving my skin looking fine I will use it up so it doesn’t go to waste, but I think I will do more research and see what inexpensive ones are good before I buy the next one….

    Its all a bit confusing for me sometimes! x

    • missbudgetbeauty
      11 July, 2013 / 7:09 pm

      yes exactly!! I had a balm to move on to in the cupboard but I wasn’t about to throw out my products and start over.. I’m just trying to make better choices in future

  9. 11 July, 2013 / 5:55 pm

    I wouldn’t want to have skin that was *too* good, to be honest, which I use as an excuse to not be totally ‘good’ with my skincare routine. The lady you mentioned above has skin which looks a lot, lot, younger than she is, which I’m not sure about.

    • missbudgetbeauty
      11 July, 2013 / 7:08 pm

      why would you not want perfect skin? And do you mean you’re not sure she’s as old as she claims lol??

      • 12 July, 2013 / 11:03 am

        I feel like her skin looks younger than she is, and I don’t know, I see how my mum’s skin has aged and she looks good for 50, sure she has some sun spots and some fine lines, but she looks wise and experienced – same as how premature baldness always made people think my dad was older than he was and therefore they took him more seriously.

        It’s going to be enough of a struggle to have my voice heard as a woman, I don’t want to look younger than I am as well!

        • guest
          4 July, 2014 / 2:46 pm

          I’m sorry, but WTF?

          • missbudgetbeauty
            5 July, 2014 / 1:04 pm

            what’s your question?

  10. 11 July, 2013 / 6:01 pm

    I want to try the Emma Hardie balm! Does foaming cleansers mean gel ones or just the ones that pump out as a foam?

    Seaside Beauty
    xxx

    • missbudgetbeauty
      11 July, 2013 / 7:06 pm

      ones that foam when you use them, they lather up rather than being a balm/oil/cream and most of the time they happen to be gels I guess

  11. 11 July, 2013 / 7:35 pm

    It’s the same with face wipes.

    People really don’t want to hear that what they’re doing isn’t very good for them, I’ve received a lot of animosity when trying to explain to people they should consider switching from face wipes or foam washes to more skin friendly products. I’m not pushy, I just mention that skin care experts say they’re not good for us and perhaps they should google some articles on the matter.

  12. sarah
    11 July, 2013 / 9:06 pm

    I have a foaming wash…….but it’s from Organic Surge so free from all those nasties. Is that still bad???? It’s so confusing when everyone’s got a different opinion. I just bought mine cos I thought it had to be kinder to skin than a lot of nornal brands, even if it’s not the HG.

  13. 11 July, 2013 / 11:29 pm

    I recently went running to the shops to buy a whole new skincare routine after discovering Carole’s blog too! To be honest I was dismayed about how limited your choices become after exiling foaming cleansers, especially if you’re trying to get something in a supermarket. I do skincare on a budget and I find I’m now limited to about 2 or 3 brands and 2 shops. I don’t spend a lot of money on make up products, limiting myself to a few high end products as treats, so I’m not about to go and spend over £15-£20 on skincare. So limited! Love the blog.

  14. 12 July, 2013 / 12:55 am

    I have to admit that I had never heard of CH until you wrote your blog post mentioning her and linking the Pixiwoo video, and watching that completely changed everything for me. I wasn’t sure her advice would work until I tried using a cleansing balm and I couldn’t believe the difference. I think the proof is in the pudding with this one, and if people are able/want to try a “better” skincare routine they should, and those that don’t – well, no one’s forcing them to! What CH says actually makes sense and that’s what compelled me to give her routine a try, and for me, it’s working so far. I know what you mean about that “squeaky clean” feeling, on my – extremely oily – nose I’m used to getting it that clean and it’s been strange for me to use an oil-based product on it. At the moment, I’m similar to you as I’m using products that I already own (cleansing balm) and will probably introduce other items such as an exfoliating toner when I can buy them. It’sall been quite controversial!

  15. 12 July, 2013 / 4:33 am

    I have swapped to really gentle a non foaming cleanser for a while now and at least, on my skin, I have seen a difference. Foaming cleansers are too drying for me, making my skin even more oily than before since it is dehydrated in order for it to put some moisture back into it is to produce oil. Although that being said, I still use a foaming cleanser maybe once a week? To really get my skin squeaky clean (living in a humid and dusty city doesn’t help the acne, oiliness and clogged pores! lol), normally on the weekends but other than that I don’t really use it. Thanks for the post, I really enjoy reading your blog, I check it like everyday! Keep up the good work 🙂 x

  16. traceyleigh
    12 July, 2013 / 3:36 pm

    i made the switch about 4 months ago, but i ended up switching back, it was to much for me, i know im going to sound crazy but i really did miss the sqeaky clean feeling that foam cleansers brought me! but i have come up with doing the balm before i do my make up in the morning and then the foam to take it all off.. it seems to make my skin perfect! and i have combo skin so for it not to affect it or anything its great! i feel more refreshed in the mornings and superclean before bed! maybe you should try it?

  17. holly
    12 July, 2013 / 6:33 pm

    as i recent convert to religiously cleansing nightly due to the pixiwoo CH interview (I used to take a quick baby wipe over my face! that was it!…) I’m glad I watched it, its given me information I would have never have found out. She is just arming people with knowledge. I think her ‘NO SHIT’ abrupt attitude is quite funny and I think maybe people take this as she’s barking criticism at you on your choices.

    “I’m not running out to spend a fortune on that EH cleansing balm. I have far younger skin that she does ”

    Also with the EH balm alot of people will just go get it via what she says but also alot wont which is fine. One thing CH has repeatedly said is if you are willing to pay over a £100 for a handbag then turn your nose up at £30 daily cleansing balm, it’s a bit silly and this did make me think yes I agree. I love splurging but only on things that I think are worth it. EH balm is not going to work for everyone (young/oily/dry) everyone’s skin is different but fortunately it did for me. I kept rough exfoliating my face every other day to get rid of that clogged pore feeling around my nose on chin but now with EH balm on an evening and exfoliating only twice weekly that feeling has gone!! so for me spending that money is worth it if it works. I now want an exfoliating toner as I do think rubbing small grains of sand in my face quite abrasive!!!!

  18. Jodie
    13 July, 2013 / 1:58 am

    I don’t think there’s a be all and end all when it comes to skincare. What works for one person isn’t necessarily going to work for another. As people have said heaps of companies wouldn’t make foaming cleansers if they were bad. I don’t know where people got the idea that natural is better anyway. Poisons are natural, stinging nettles are natural but rubbing them on my face won’t be good for me haha. In the end it comes down to trial and error.

  19. Jade
    13 July, 2013 / 10:14 am

    Hi Miss BB!!

    I’m from Japan and studying in Scotland right now (from last summer). Since my skin was so sensitive even when I was in Japan, when I came here, I was totally lost. It was horrible, especially last winter. The water, weather, environment, everything is different. So even my mom sent me tons of products I used in Japan (which all worked for me in Japan), it didn’t work.
    My skin was horrible and still not stable. Then I found tons of videos of you and other beauty girls in the UK! I learned/found products and tried. (sorry, long intro)

    I’ve never used barm type cleanser and as you said, I want really clean-shiny face after I wash my face. So I wasn’t sure using barm. But after you posted on your blog, I start using it and surprisingly, it WORKS!! (I’m using Botanics one)
    Of course I have “want to used foaaaaaaaam!!” moments and I don’t have enough courage to throw foams away. But I have to admit, a barm is really good for me.

    So right now…
    -make up day…use barm. NO foam
    -without make up day and morning (not everyday) …use foam.

    It’s really difficult for me to say NO immediately. I change step by step. So maybe next month, I don’t use foam in the morning.

    Love your blog and videos!! xx

  20. Kandi F
    20 July, 2016 / 3:56 am

    I cannot tolerate any kind of foam cleanser because I have dry, sensitive skin. I have been searching for an organic cleanser that wouldn’t make my sensitive skin burn on my cheeks and would also moisturize and not leave my skin dry after cleansing. The Made from Earth Green Tea Cleanser is perfect for me – no foam and It feels so soothing, smells heavenly, and as suggested on the package, I often leave it on for several minutes as sort of a treatment mask for my dry skin before rinsing it off.

    I will never use anything else after finally finding this

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